In Japan, what would you say was the typical balance of leisure time and work time? Actually, I've never worked in Japan, so I don't know exactly, but I think almost japanese businessman has to work very hard every day. So just for holiday, for example, on just Sunday they can spend their time for hobby, I think. Do you think people have enough leisure time generally in Japan? It depends on people, I think. And what about the future? Future? Yes. Will people have more time or less time? Less time, I think even less? Yes, even less. Almost japanese people like maybe like working, I think could be. What's the balance between leisure and work in your country? You see, when we speak about, for example, Moscow, of course, in Moscow people usually work long hours. Long hours, really. And they are overworked maybe sometimes. But on the other side they had a lot of possibilities to a lot of entertainment. There are a lot of casinos, for example, shows, cinemas and everything. Do you think this will change in the future? I'm not sure that it will change in nearest future. I think the schedule of work will be even stronger, harder, tougher. What is the balance between leisure and work like in your country? I think people work too much. Okay. More than the leisure. Leisure. Why do you think that? Why do you think people work too much? I think because I think salaries are not that high and people need to work a lot to provide themselves, I think. And also think, on the other hand, professional people just want to go higher, higher in the job ladder. Will this will change in the future or will it always be like this? I think it's changing now. People realise that you can be productive without staying all day, doing things all the time. You mentioned that the work leisure balance in Germany is perhaps a little bit out of balance. Can you tell me more about that? Yeah, I mean, the regular working hours would be eight to 9 hours a day. But nowadays competition is quite big because of the unemployment. So everybody is really putting a lot of overtime in their work and most of the time probably don't get paid for it. And leisure time is increasingly, of course, getting less and less. And so people are definitely looking forward to the holidays or their weekends to enjoy family life. But I think family life, isn't that what it was before? Because everybody is so focused on their careers and to keep their jobs and have a good income and survive basically in the system. Do you think this will continue in the future? Well, probably next ten years till the economy again picking up and our social welfare system is getting better again because it was quite good years ago, but the last ten years, I would say it really declined a bit.
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